Who: Jethro Tull
When: Tuesday, April 30, at 8 p.m.
Where: Thomas Wolfe Auditorium
How Much: Call 828.259.5544
So this Ian Anderson guy calls me the other day. You might know
him. Hes an odd little chap. His trademark is perching on
one leg while puffing on a flute with more vigor than Pan with rabies.
Some call him rock-n-rolls antihero, an acoustic musician
surrounded by the electric pulse of his band, Jethro Tull.
Of course, Ian can play more than the flute, he is capable on many
stringed instruments (six-string, mandolin), and his ability to
change night after night is probably why Jethro Tull still captivates
audiences in its fifth decade together.
Jethro Tull (which took its name from the 18th-century English farmer
who invented the seed drill) was formed in late 1967 in the Southern
English town of Luton, Bedfordshire. By March 1968, the group had
become a sensation in Londons underground music scene. Tull
was different from other regional bands of the time (Clapton, the
Yardbirds) because of frontman Anderson. Here was a guy who wore
a huge scruffy coat onstage and liked to have his alarm clock go
off during one of his band members guitar solos. Odd, yes,
but no one could deny his charisma or showmanship.
And he has always been the bulls eye of attention. The performers
with him were (and still are) a talented bunch, and the creative
process of every album has always been communal. But, when you think
of Tull classics like Aqualung and Thick as a
Brick, you think Ian Anderson.
Aqualung — which in its 30th year was honored
with full articles by Rolling Stone and the Chicago Sun -Times —
is still as resonant as it was in 1971. Anderson wrote these songs
in a period where everything seemed to be falling apart (insurmountable
debt, studio pressure, harsh critics, and the sacking of their bass
player, Glenn Cornick). He took all the lyrics from periods in his
boyhood, and the end result was the masterpiece that still lingers
in ears and radio waves across the world.
It was Ians masterpiece, and it was essentially when Anderson
took over creative control of the band. The next offering was Thick
as a Brick (a concept album in reaction to critics who incorrectly
thought Aqua-lung was a concept album), which cemented
Tull as a rock band with cerebral intentions as well as being a
band that could sell out stadiums.
Thirty years have gone by, and Jethro Tull can still entertain,
thanks to their proclivity for improv, and Andersons appetite
for new sounds (Tull fanatics should check out his 2001 solo acoustic
release, The Secret Language of Birds.) Theyve
toured incessantly — although Ian was slowed down in 1996
with DVT (deep vein thrombosis) — and the 2002 tour looks
like a schedule for wily bands half their age. Their new CD, Living
With the Past (which coincides with their April 30th Asheville
date) captures Jethro Tull in an array of performances and arrangements.
In addition to classic songs recorded at Londons Hammersmith
Odeon, the CD features an acoustic home session and a one-time only
club reunion of the groups original 1968 line-up.
The DVD, which will be released in May, shows videos of Ians
guest performances with Fairport Convention and Uriah Heep, photographs
by the band members, backstage footage, and a virtual ticket window
that allows the user to experience a song from any seat at the Hammersmith
Odeon.
Despite the onset of a mega tour, Anderson found time in his frenzied
schedule to ramble (youve got anywhere from 3 and a
half minutes to 30 minutes, he told me). He is definitely
an interesting fellow, and his sharp tongue and parched wit are
a reporters dream (even though I had the feeling that a dim-witted
question could raise a tempest). Luckily, I got Ian in all his eccentric
glory:
SMN: I want to start with your new release, Living With the
Past. First, how did you select what was going to be on the
CD? Was it an autocratic decision, or did everybody have a say so
in the decision making?
I.A.: Well it wasnt so much the guys in the band. They tend
to leave these things up to me. But the record company, because
of the DVD coming out in May, discussed it with everyone. Part of
the CD comes from the DVD soundtrack material and others we took
from live performances from concert, radio, and television from
the last few years. We tried to make the CD a bit different, so
that the real fans that buy both arent getting a CD that theyve
already heard on the DVD.
SMN: I liked the acoustic home session on the CD. It had to be nice
considering your recent acoustic release of The Secret Language
of Birds. Was this home session a direct result of your work
with Birds?
I.A.: Not really. I am an acoustic musician. Thats what Ive
been doing all these years — playing in a rock band with an
acoustic instrument like the flute, acoustic guitar, or playing
the mandolin, and the other things Ive been playing since
1968. Its perfectly normal for me to be playing in that context,
but most of the time what Im playing with Jethro Tull is rock
music. And its just that Im usually surrounded by a
noisy electric guitar.
SMN: What kind of feelings did you have performing a club reunion
with the original 1968 band?
I.A.: It was very odd for me. Although Ive played with two
of those three guys on and off again over the years, being onstage
with the four of us together for the first time in 33 years was
quite strange. We just played through the music once and then went
to camera without a lot of elaborate rehearsal. The guys had done
their homework, they listened to the three songs we were going to
play. It didnt necessarily [laughs] come flooding back, but
they certainly worked out what the parts were. It was very interesting
to do. But it was odd.
SMN: Lack of chemistry?
I.A.: Well, yes. Its familiarity and the unfamiliarity together.
Its people that you know, but youre just not used to
that musical combination. People are idiosyncratic in the way they
play. All the little subtleties make it all very different. You
have to find a way to settle down very quickly and understand that
subtle relationship that goes beyond words. There is no way to describe
something you actually feel, something you intuitively respond with
another. Its either going to happen or it isnt.
SMN: Live performances: What kind of classic songs really still
carry resonance with you?
I.A.: Probably about a hundred of them. Out of 250-odd Jethro Tull
and Ian Anderson solo pieces, theres probably about a hundred
that Im still real happy to play. But [laughs] not all at
the same time and not all on the same night. We move the songs around
from tour to tour. Songs come and go from the setlists, and sometimes
the songs get radically changed.
SMN: It has to be liberating to be able to change constantly and
have this improvisation in your set.
I.A..: Well improvisation is an important ingredient in Jethro Tulls
music. Its not that we jam everything. There are a lot of
set pieces, and a lot of written tightly controlled arrangements.
But within those is a lot of room for individuals to improvise.
That keeps it interesting for everyone onstage because we dont
have to play the same notes every night.
SMN: I read that before and after shows you like to be alone. Why
is this important?
I.A.: Because Im not very friendly [laughter from interviewer].
And I dont feel very rock-n-roll most of the time, so Im
not really one for hanging out with the guys. I like the peaceful
preparation for doing a concert. I like to have my instruments with
me. I dont let anybody else touch them. My guitars go in and
out of their cases. My flutes get polished. Its me who does
it. I dont ask them to hold my willy when I go to the bathroom
and I dont ask them to take my flute out of its case. There
is a very emotional and close tie you have with your instrument.
Its something like a ritual, its something you do, and
you dont let other people near.
Thats in sharp contrast to most rock bands because they basically
have servants. They have these ... creatures who get the guitars,
change the strings, polish them, put them onstage, plug them in,
do soundcheck for them. The musicians just huddle up five minutes
before the show and get onstage and play.
Sound check is important for the musicians and me so we can understand
the venues sound, to anticipate problems, and to get used
to the size of the stage. These are things I think you need to be
there in person to deal with. I need to be there. I need to soak
up the atmosphere of the venue. If its some old art deco theater
from the 20s, I want to walk around it. I want to go up and
sit in the circle of the balcony and get a feel of the 80 years
of history. I need to know what spirits and souls have passed through
there and what music and entertainment has floated off that stage.
SMN: I want to go back to your past a little bit. First off, when
Jethro Tull began its surge in 1968, why did you decide it was important
for you to shy away from being labeled a blues band?
I.A.: When I was 16, I would have killed to be in a blues band.
I grew up listening to black American blues — Muddy Waters,
Howling Wolf, Sonny Terry, John Lee Hooker and all those guys. By
the time I was 18 and beginning to play music in clubs, I realized
that being in a blues band was not easy, because thats not
what people wanted to listen to. They wanted to listen to pop and
soul music. For the next couple of years, in order to be a musician,
I had to play that other stuff. In 1967-68, (I was 19-20 at the
time) blues did become a meaningful commercial reality, at least
in the South of England. Jethro Tull was able to form and play as
a blues band in those clubs. By then, I suppose I had other tastes
in music. I enjoyed blues then and I enjoy it now. But I wasnt
black and I wasnt American. So I fail on two counts of being
authentic. Maybe that isnt important, but it seemed important
to me. I didnt really feel I could do blues justice. I wanted
to try and infuse elements of blues stylings and blues improvisations
with something that was a bit more true to my own background. So
folk music and classical music became part of the soup I brewed
up. I try to get these other flavors, stir them up together, and
try and find something a bit more eclectic. Something that would
reflect my interest in other music forms. And I started doing that
in 1968, which really brought about the end of Jethro Tull as it
was. Mick Abrahams, who was the original guitar player, was a blues
guitar player. He didnt want to, nor could he, play anything
else. Songs I was writing in 1968 were difficult to convey to Mick,
who didnt really get them. By the end of 1968, Mick was in
one place, and the rest of the band was somewhere else. So we replaced
Mick with Martin Barre [Barre is still performing with the present
lineup of Jethro Tull].
Martin was not a great guitar player, but he was more of an open
mind. He was like me. He had an interest in other kinds of music.
He was kind of like a blank page, on which I could write my ideas,
and he was very eager and worked hard to try and develop his playing.
By the time we made Stand Up (in 1969), we had a pretty
good idea that Jethro Tull could be something more than a blues
band.
SMN: I want to talk about your persona during 1968-1969. You used
to wear onstage a heavy Dunfermline Curling Club Blazer that your
father had given you, and you had invented a device called the claghorn...
I.A.: It was an instrument I had made from a cheap sort of Indian
bamboo flute, the mouthpiece of a saxophone and the end of a childs
plastic toy trumpet. I sort of taped these things together with
duct tape and it made this godforsaken dreadful sound, kind of like
a wounded animal. It was really out of tune and awful, but it had
a ruckus, sort of exciting sound. It was only played on one particular
piece of music, called Dharma for One. It was a short-lived
instrument. It fell apart and it was never to be seen again.
SMN: I also read that you had an alarm clock go off during guitar
solos ...
I.A.: I used to have it go off sometime during the set, no one ever
knew when. Wed be onstage and the alarm would be ringing,
and I would rummage through my bag and switch it off. I did it partly
because back then blues bands were terribly serious. They were kind
of purists. I like to kind of mess around and make people laugh,
or at least disrupt. If someone looked too serious, I liked to shake
it up a little.
SMN: Do you like to portray this prankster persona anymore?
I.A.: [Laughs] Yes, but I dont want to be taken the wrong
way. Im 53. Im not 20 years old anymore. I cant
play the pranks I used to. It would be unseemly of a gentleman of
my vintage [laughter on both sides ] to be tossing sanitary towels
in the audience anymore.
SMN: Rolling Stone Magazine and the Chicago Sun-Times both revisited
Aqualung (with glowing reviews) last year. Why do you
think theres still a fascination with an album thats
30 years old?
I.A.: Well, the title track was about something thats not
historical. Its not about wearing flowers in your hair in
San Francisco circa 1966. Its about homeless people. Thats
a phenomena of today, yesterday, and tomorrow as well. Its
a song thats timeless, and its about the guilt, fear,
and admiration for the folks who choose to live apart form society.
I think they choose because it seems that many of them do have an
element of choice. It doesnt apply to everybody, but there
are folks who live the life of homeless people, but with a kind
of dignity because they have made that choice.
There was very good movie with Robin Williams and Jeff Bridges called
The Fisher King. That Williams character came alive,
and in a sense my emotions came alive much like Jeff Bridges [his
character tries to aid Williams homeless persona] — the emotion
of distaste and guilt, and companionship. For me, it was very resonant
of Aqualung.
SMN: You arent the usual VH-1 behind- the-story
rock soap opera icon. When you wrote Aqualung, you wrote
it from personal boyhood experiences, and not the usual plights
of drugs, sex, and rock-n-roll. You were 23 at the time when you
wrote Aqualung, which is from stories of your teen years.
How were you able to write accurately about the throes of puberty?
I.A.: A lot of the ideas from the songs, at least from the first
three or four albums, were things that came out of my growth years.
Songs like My God and Windup expressed my
feelings when I was 14. Its a very powerful time in your life,
all the things you go through and all those things you learn and
all those frustrations you lash out at. Powerful chemicals are coursing
through your veins at that time. Ideas, philosophies and dreams
are all very powerful, and they are all indelibly etched upon your
psyche. Then I got to the point in my early 20s where I was able
to write this stuff down and put it forward in terms of something
creative or entertaining. Its easy to summon those times.
Theyre not that far away, and they come flooding back very
quickly and authentically in terms of subject material.
But it would be harder for me to do now because Im a whole
lot older. It would be difficult to write a song that accurately
reflected my teenage years. But I could write a song through the
eyes of somebody else. Im more of an observational writer
now.
SMN: Kind of like a visual artist?
I.A.: Very much so. Thats what I began studying before I became
a musician. I was a studying to be a painter, most of my references
seem to be quite pictorial. I do try and make songs about visual
things. When Im stage, Im providing a picture, or a
soundtrack to a movie, or the soundtrack to a still picture, or
a photograph, or a painting. Its important to have that reference
there because it gives the song some vitality and credibility. Im
not just not singing abstract words or noises.
SMN: This is my last question. I want to read an excerpt from a
1993 interview with Rolling Stone. You said, I remember seeing
2001: A Space Odyssey in 1968 and thinking, God,
I wonder where well be in 2001? In a strange way, 68
having been the year we started, 2001 might be a good time for Jethro
Tull to play its last concert. Youve got time for Jethro Tull
to play its last concert. Youve got every chance of playing
until youre as old as Muddy Waters was — its just
those of us who, perhaps unwisely, chose a more athletic way of
performing music who are really in for a rough final few years.
Well, Ian, its 2002 and youre still going strong. What
do you have to say for yourself?
I.A.: Well its one more year [laughs] than I thought would
be the case. Its about the physicality of it. The spirits
more than willing. The body, however, feels the passing of time.
Right at the moment, Im in fine shape for the next year or
five or 10. Of course, this time next year, or next week, I could
have fallen prey to some dreadful illness. A couple of guys in the
band have had some serious question marks over their careers in
the last few months. Martin Barre has to have surgery straight after
tour and that was career-threatening. It worked out, but it might
not have. Thats one of the reasons we recorded the DVD because
he knew he was facing the prospect of not being able to play again.
The surgerys not guaranteed, but he seems to be doing fine,
and hes playing every day. Hes fine, or so he tells
me. Ill find out that next week [laughter]. Drummer Don Perry
had some serious illnesses last year that could have had surgical
outcomes, but hes gotten away with it and hes in good
spirits.
With all of us, its happens in every walk of life, particularly
where youre a sportsman, or a musician, or doing something
where theres a danger of repetitive strain type injuries.
The good news is what Ive not had yet is any problem either
playing guitar or the flute. Playing the flutes weird because
you adopt a strange posture. But, so far so good. I havent
had any kind of stresses and strains as a flute player. Its
been so far event free. When Im not on tour, I try and play
flute regularly, but not everyday ... and probably only for a few
minutes. I dont completely get out of touch with the instrument,
but I dont practice, practice, practice. I think there are
times when you have to let your muscles do different things. Its
good to let your muscles relearn and let them do something different
for awhile ...
SMN: Like building a claghorn...
I.A.: Yes, but preferably in someone elses backyard.