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12/11/02
ACLU
warnings influence WNC decisions
Groups interpretation of
civil liberties guarantees riles many
By
Scott McLeod
Nativity
scenes and student-led prayer meetings have kept the American Civil
Liberties Union busy in Western North Carolina.
Just two weeks ago the North Carolina branch of the controversial
organization threatened a lawsuit against Macon County over a nativity
scene that is annually set up on the grounds of the county courthouse.
A little more than a month earlier, in October, Haywood County schools
were warned about teacher participation in the annual See You
at the Pole prayer celebration led by by students.
In both cases, local governments were forced to deal with overwhelming
public support for activities that the Supreme Court has found to
be unconstitutional. But that public sentiment does not deter the
ACLUs attorneys.
I think its safe to say there is a lot of misunderstanding
about what we stand for, said Seth Jaffe, a staff attorney for
the ACLU of North Carolina. We say the government should make
good on the promises written into the Constitution.
Battling the ACLU, though, has become a full-time job for some who
disagree with its interpretation of the Constitution.
The Constitution they are fighting for, they are reading it
with blinders on, said Joshua Carden, an attorney for the Alliance
Defense Fund, a Scottsdale, Ariz., based organization that was formed
primarily to help in legal fights against the ACLUs interpretation
of the Constitution.
Elves at the nativity
Jaffe says the ACLU did not have any problem with the Macon County
nativity scene on the courthouse property this year. Technically,
hes correct.
Last Christmas, though, the ACLU threatened to sue Macon County
unless it modified the nativity scene on its courthouse property.
After receiving a letter from the statewide ACLU, Macon officials
acquiesced. The Streets of Franklin — a downtown booster organization
— purchased secular displays like the one now up of elves
ice skating. That meets the Supreme Court standard, according to
Jaffe.
The high court has held that nativity scenes on public property
are religious in nature, and in effect endorses religion,
said Jaffe, citing the 1984 case of Lynch B. Donnelly vs. the U.S.
Supreme Court.
The ACLU and the county have discussed the nativity scene for six
years now. This year, the ACLU sent a reminder to Macon Countys
manager and attorney of last years problems. Those letters
led to the public hearing Nov. 18 where a packed room of irate citizens
spoke in favor of keeping the nativity scene solely religious.
We want our Christmas scene where its always been. If
its moved, it will be a sign of the times, a sad sign,said
Pam Goldsmith during the public hearing.
Several commissioners echoed Goldsmiths sentiments.
However, Gail Chapman of the Streets of Franklin committee, offered
the county several alternatives. Her suggestions came after County
Manager Sam Greenwood asked her to come to the meeting with some
options in hopes of avoiding an expensive lawsuit that the county
attorney said would likely cost as much as $100,000. One of those
was to move the scene off public property. Commissioners voted unanimously
to keep the display on county property but add elves and other secular
characters.
Chapman, chairman of the Streets of Franklin committee, said she
was satisfied with the commissioners decision about how to
handle the controversy — keep it on public property but abide
by the law.
Sure, I think it is a good idea to abide by and obey the U.S.
Constitution, said Chapman.
The court cases cited said the nativity scene could not be
dominant, said Chapman. We thought we might could slip
it by this year, but we asked commissioners first.
Carden, of the Alliance Defense Fund, said the ruling on the nativity
scene is known by some lawyers as the Three Reindeer Rule.
There are people offended by nativity scenes, so you have
to include enough non-religious displays to counterbalance the religious
stuff. This is pretty well established in case law, said Carden.
The mindset is that as long as you have some non-religious
items, somehow that makes it OK.
Again, Jaffe argues that the ACLU is not interpreting the Constitution,
merely reminding local officials of what the Supreme Court has said.
We did not have a problem with Macon County this year. We
simply reiterated in a letter what the court has ruled, said
Jaffe.
Teachers in the background
When Haywood students were preparing for the annual See You
at the Pole before-school prayer meeting earlier this fall,
school officials advised teachers they could not participate. A
Sept. 16 memo to principals from Associate Superintendent Anne Garrett
read, in part, If this event takes place before, during or
after school, teachers cannot participate. ... teachers do not have
the right to pray with or in the presence of students during the
school day.
School officials were told they could be present, but only as observers
and to keep order. That decision led to several letters to the editor
in the county newspaper, The Enterprise Mountaineer. Readers were
upset at the school system for not letting teachers participate.
School attorney Patrick Smathers was prompted to send a letter explaining
the boards actions.
While the policy and direction given school administrators
may not be the personal desire of our individual board members,
Smathers wrote, it is the current status of the law which
board members must support due to the Courts decision and
their sworn oath to uphold the Constitution.
Although the school board never altered its policy, says Garrett,
a newspaper article saying it had prompted a letter — and
a warning — from the ACLU.
In the article you are quoted as informing the Haywood County
School Board that [Haywood County] teachers should have been
notified that they could participate [in the see you at the pole
prayers] but not lead the prayers. This is in direct conflict
with the provisions of the Equal Access Act ... and the U.S. Supreme
Court, read the letter from Jaffe.
Garrett said the warning from the ACLU was borne out of a misunderstanding.
Carden, though, says the ACLUs interpretation of the Supreme
Courts ruling on the See You at the Pole activity is not upheld
by case law.
There is simply no case or trial law that supports this interpretation,
said Carden.
He argued that telling teachers they cannot participate before school
in a religious activity merely because students are present violates
the teachers civil rights.
To say teachers cant participate in a religious event
when they are not on school time, that is frightening and is the
opposite of civil liberties, said Carden.
Jaffe disagrees.
It doesnt matter if it is on school time, what does
matter is that it is on school grounds. The rationale is that if
school children participate, with teachers, it has the effect of
government endorsing prayer, and that violates the Constitution,
said Jaffe.
As for teachers being present, Jaffe said that is OK — to
a degree.
However, if you had 10 kids praying at the pole and 20 teachers
to maintain order, that might be suspicious, he said.
And while the ACLU sent the letter to Smathers this year, Jaffe
said the warning was based entirely on the newspaper article in
The Enterprise Mount-aineer. So far it has received no reports of
any teachers or officials in Haywood County doing anything unconstitutional
during this past See You at the Pole event.
Misunderstood or wrong?
The ACLU evokes strong feelings in most people. Many remember well
the accusation by then presidential candidate George Bush against
Michael Dukakis in the 1988 presidential election that Dukakis (governor
of Massachusetts) was a card-carrying liberal, a member of
the ACLU. It was a reflection of a belief by many that the
organization — which formed in 1920 and has 300,000 members
— has become the defender of anti-American values.
Carden says it is all in the interpretation of the Constitution.
We dont believe the Constitution is a living, breathing
document. The people who wrote it had gathered information and wrote
down what they believed, said Carden.
Ideologically, we are at extremes with the ACLU. We believe
that our view has the vast weight of historical background and interpretation
on its side, he said.
ACLU backers say otherwise, and point to a long list of landmark
issues they have championed over the years: the right of unions
to organize in the 1930s, the rights of interred Japanese-Americans
in the 1940s, school desegregation in the 1950s, civil rights in
the 1960s, abortion in the 1970s, creationism in the 1980s, and
flag burning in the late 1980s. In often unpopular stands, the ACLU
defended what it believed was the right of minorities to freedoms
guaranteed in the Constitution.
When the rights of one person are violated, the rights of
all people are being violated, said Jaffe. One day the
majority who may oppose some of our positions on some issues may
be in the minority. We see it in the context of peoples rights
being vindicated.
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